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Unread post Message 563 - Posted 13 Jun 2008 18:53:27 UTC
Due to work at the LIGO Hanford Observatory this summer, there may be occasions when new data are not being generated for the LIGO e-Lab.

Because Bluestone defaults to using the most recent 12 hours of data, this may result in errors, which may produce output like this:

ERROR: ROOT return code: 15
ROOT task failed!
Probable cause: No frames read. Nothing to plot
Analysis failed!
Please see the log files for futher information.

If you get something like this, the first thing to do is to try using data from an earlier time interval.

I will post updates to this thread when there are scheduled outages or other reasons to expect new data to not be available.
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Unread post Message 564 - Posted 13 Jun 2008 20:18:54 UTC
LIGO data will not be available for about a week at the end of June, and there will likely be other times when is is unavailable for shorter intervals.

Greg Mendel wrote:
Note that /fb0_frames will be going down unannounced several times over the next few weeks, and then all the data will be unavailable for several days the last week of this month, when we replace almost all the RAID systems here. There will be major framebuilder upgrades continuing after that through the month of July.

However, /archive should be up, except the last week of this month, June. The data may not be up-to-the minute here, but at least something should be available...


I will note here also that I have just switched over to using /archive as the source for DMT frames, rather than /fb0_frames. This may mean that new data appear up to 6 hours after they have been collected, but as Greg says, at least something should be available.
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Unread post Message 565 - Posted 17 Jun 2008 13:31:01 UTC
One consequence of changing the source of DMT data for Bluestone is that new data may not show up for as long as 6 hours, rather than an hour or two, as has been the case until now. I don't know yet if this is temporary or a permanent change.
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Unread post Message 566 - Posted 17 Jun 2008 13:35:20 UTC
It looks like new data will not be available at all next week from LIGO:
Greg Mendel wrote:

Hi All,

The /archive, /frames, and /export filesystems will be updated next week,
Monday June 23 - Friday June 27, 2008, at LHO. Since most LDAS services
require one or more of these filesystems, all LDAS services will go down
starting Monday afternoon. We will also try to take advantage of the
downtime to patch, update, and install new servers. Thus, the downtime could
last most of the week.

During this downtime CDS will also be upgrading the fb1 framebuilder. The
/frames filesystem will remain unavailable until CDS completes this work.

All astrowatch data will be written by the fb0 framebuilder during the
LDAS/CDS downtime, and LDAS will catch up with archiving this data as soon
as possible during the week, so that no astrowatch data should be lost. Our
next priority after this will be to restore the services needed by the
cluster, and open it back up for jobs.

Announcements will be made when services are restored.

Thanks for your patience.

Regards,
Greg


I am hoping that the astrowatch data mentioned here includes PEM data, and perhaps DMT data, so that we will eventually get data for this week, just not right away. But I don't know yet if that's the case.
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Unread post Message 570 - Posted 17 Jun 2008 14:52:22 UTC
Just to keep people in the loop I thought I'd reproduce here a note from the May LHO outreach newsletter, called "Listening to the Stars":

Listening to the Stars wrote:
Science Update

**Substantial changes to the H1 and L1 (Louisiana) interferometers
continue to occur week by week in the Enhanced LIGO program. LIGO
personnel recently said farewell to the 10-watt Nd:YAG Lightwave
laser that provided light into the detector for nearly 10 years. In
its place there now rests a 35-watt unit developed by the Albert
Einstein Institute and Lazer Zentrum Hannover. The power increase
will render the interferometer more sensitive. The seed laser and
the amplification system will form the basis of the Advanced LIGO
laser, with additional amplification bringing the power up to nearly
200 watts for Advanced LIGO. To fully exploit the sensitivity gains
from higher power, these new systems must conform to LIGO's
extraordinary requirements for the stability of the light. In 2006
the AEI-LZH team achieved and published worldwide best results for
laser power stabilization on the hardware design that now resides at
LHO.

**To subscribe to "Listening to the Stars", send an email to outreach@ligo-wa.caltech.edu and include "subscribe to newsletter" on the subject line.
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Unread post Message 593 - Posted 30 Jun 2008 14:56:47 UTC
As of the end of June 2008 here is the latest status on the work being done on the framebuilders at Hanford:
Greg Mendell wrote:
Hi All,

The upgrade of /export, /archive, and /frames has been completed at LHO.

However, we are still working to get the segment database up (Ping and
Duncan are helping).

Currrently unvailable: condor, publishing of raw astrowatch data and segments, and LSCsegFind; logins to ldas-grid are currently disabled.

Logins to ldas-pcdev1 at LHO are available again. LSCdataFind should work.

Archiving and reduction of trend and astrowatch data began again yesterday, and is catching up. Publishing of trend and astrowatch Level 1 and 3 RDS data is running, and this data has begun to transfer to CIT.

Note that the /frames directory will not be available until CDS
completes its tests of the new framebuilder using this filesystem,
sometime after July 4.

Thanks for your patience.

Regards,
Greg

Since I2U2 gets data from the /frames directory this means that new data will not be available until after July 4th. However, the comment about archiving and reduction of trend data suggests to me that at least some data from this time interval will become available, just not right away. But I don't know for sure yet if there will be gaps in available data or not.
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Unread post Message 594 - Posted 30 Jun 2008 15:02:54 UTC - in response to Message ID 593.
Eric Myers wrote:
But I don't know for sure yet if there will be gaps in available data or not.
Actually, re-reading the message lets me make a better guess. Greg posted this note to the LIGO DASWG mailing list on Friday 27 June, and so if archiving and reduction began "yesterday" then I'd expect we will eventually be able to get data from 26 June onward. We shall see...
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Unread post Message 595 - Posted 1 Jul 2008 12:53:42 UTC
It appears that new data are now available from LIGO. The attached plot shows the gaps that were left by the work over the past couple of weeks (these may or may not fill in a bit).

Keep in mind that work will continue at Hanford, so there may be other disruptions in the future.
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Unread post Message 596 - Posted 3 Jul 2008 15:59:30 UTC
We are now getting data, but it is only being refreshed on a daily basis, at 5AM PDT. If you use Bluestone with the default of looking at the most recent 12 hours then it will fail after 5PM PDT with an error that there were no data available. I do not know how long we will continue operating in this mode.
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Unread post Message 597 - Posted 5 Aug 2008 19:18:54 UTC
Data are now being released hourly from Hanford. I don't know how long that will last.
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